As some of you know, I am having a very hard time procuring a good synthetic 2-stroke oil for my paramotor here in Guam. I contacted Royal Purple to ask about their HP 2C oil for use in my paramotor, and got the standard "not for aviation use due to insurence and FAA" Crapola answer.
I responded somewhat politely to "grow a set" and let me decide if I want to hurt myself, and just answer my damn technical questions..
So far nothing.
You guys ever use Royal Purple oils? What says the peanut gallery?

Depending on your engine.......Royal purple is NOT recommended for MZ engines because it causes the rings to stick.
What does the PPG MFG recommend? any PPG forums with oil discussions? Jet ski oil rated API/TC ?? not that TC-W3 used in boats.


Just a side note, My old Harley did not like royal purple either, it ran best with Aeroshell 100.....go figure.

I know whT manufacter recommends. Unobtanium here in Guam.
May keep looking. Not hearing great things.

Hmmm, What engine is it?

Can you get mail at an FPO/APO?

Not the mail. Its the hazmat fees
My rig is a Nirvana Rodeo...it uses a Simonini scooter motor.

Check into the heavy duty chainsaw oils. I read this somewhere awhile ago for 2 cycle oils in a pinch kind of source.

Not completely sure if suitable but more of a source and suggestion.

What does the manufacturer recommend Hen? Cant I send it from here?

Amsoil Interceptor muz.
Dont do anything yet, just see if you can get it?

I will see if it is available here.... and make a list of what we can get here

Edit: I can get it. It costs $Au18 + $Au8 for delivery.... If we get two bottles it is free delivery.... so two one liter bottles will cost $Au36 ($Us28) and postage to Guam will be whatever was on the post I put with prices. If we can do the 2 kg parcel, I can prolly weigh it and make the 2 bottles weigh 2 kg by removing a little out of each if I have to, then bleed the air out of the bottles (so it doesn't make 'liquid noises') and seal them in plastic bags.... so, the post was $Au65 (about $Us54) so it will cost less than $Us75 to get it there

How long have you signed up to be a 'Guamite' for?

Its more of a permanent position.
We have contracts already for next 5 years.

Great Scott!!! I have found a local supply for an oil I k ow will work!!!
Maxima K2 full synthtic is what Blackhawk paramotors uses.....
12 bucks a bottle.
Sweet.

That is great news Hen, saves alot of

Wow, 5 years

I sure hope Guam doesn't capsize in that time

Does your job include flying?

Are you able to catch a lift with the military to or when you get R&R?

I am looking forward to catching up with you one day

Just got a fascinating email from Tim at Maxima oils. Ill fry to copy it here for you guys

Hi Ben,



Since we manufacture oils for aviation use I can safely recommend an oil to you. J



Our Formula K2 is a 100% synthetic premix only oil that would compete with the Amsoil Dominator 2-cycle oil. The Formula K2 utilizes a low ash additive package which is great for land use but is not optimal for aviation use. Ash is a lubricant but when operated at sustained RPMs for extended intervals the ash can promote spark plug failures.



We also make the AV-2 oil for Aircraft Spruce http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/e ... ionoil.php which is a 50% ester synthetic / 50% mineral oil blend. This oil is identical to our Premium 2…just relabeled for its intended use. The AV-2 (Premium 2) has been used for applications such as yours for over 15 years without issue.



In looking at the MSDS sheets for the Premium 2 and the Interceptor, the Premium 2 actually has a higher ester synthetic treat % (25-35% vs. 10-30%). Also, the Premium 2 utilizes an ashless additive system which virtually eliminates spark plug failures. This is a critical property when you are operating at altitude! I could not find any information in regards to what DI package Amsoil is utilizing in their Interceptor oil. My assumption is that it contains a low ash additive package? That said, the Premium 2 is the oil that I would recommend for your Nirvana Rodeo Paramotor.



Let me know if you have any more questions and thank you for choosing Maxima!





Sincerely,



Tim Schaeffer

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From: <foothillsfirearms86@gmail.com>
Date: July 18, 2016 at 10:25:49 PM GMT-5
To: <tech@maximausa.com>
Subject: Website Contact

FirstName: Benjamin
LastName: Suissa
Address:
City: Hagatna
State/Province/Country: Guam
Zip: 96932
Tel: 671 489 0889
Comments: Howdy from beautiful paradise!
I am using a Nirvana Rodeo Paramotor. I has always been run on Amsoil Interceptor as per manufacturers suggestion.
I am completely unable to acquire that here on the island without incurring a ridiculous price for Hazmat Shipping.
The local bike shop has Maxima oils and carries K2 as well as Premium 2, Scooter Pro 2T and Castor 927.
I am instructed by my manufacturer to use a fully synthetic oil, so I figure the castor 927 is out.
The Nirvana runs a tuned engine from Simonini Scooters. Also it is really really humid here in guam if that has an effect.
Please before you go any farther, and try to inform me that you don't recommend your oils for aviation applications, save it....I went round and round with the royal purple people who have a natural fear of their own shadows, I suspect.
I am a Bomb Disposal Tech, I am a Pilot of experimental Aircraft and I ride Motorcycles too fast, oh and I eat deep fried foods too, so yeah I'm taking the risks and your not giving me legal advice blah blah blah....
I hope you guys have a suggestion on which would most closely replicate the performance of the Interceptor or exceed it so I can continue to "risk the biscuits"
Thank you in advance
Ben

Tim, Outstanding!
Its a pleasure to correspond with someone who knows his product and his business.
Premium 2 it is.
To you guys at Maxima a hearty Bravo Zulu, thanks again, and
Hooyah!

Ben

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And Muz, no mac flights, but we are making enough to save for extensive travelling. Kat and some girls are going to Saipan for a weekend next month!
We really want to see Aus. So it ll happen sooner or later.
B

http://www.queensland.com/en-au/explore ... vQod2TwCWQ

Any time brother....

Where I am on the sunshine coast is basically the middle of things to do north of Brisbane... There is Aussie world, underwater world, Australia Zoo is 5 minutes away..... up from me is all the you beaut cafe's and wineries and all that stuff... then south of Briz-vegas (Brisbane) is all the other 'entertainment worlds' like wet and wild, movie world and so on. My airport is 25 minutes away...

http://www.australia.com/en/places/gold-coast.html

All you have to do is get to Brisbane or sunshine coast airport and I can come and pick you up and deliver you back ...

Sounds good Muz.