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elwood
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This time an Arrowcopter clone.....Just like the ELA copied Magni, and MTO copied Ela, and on and on. No dealers in the US at this time....Hey Darren..... not an arrow copter, but... http://smartfly.org/
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Gabor
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Time for me to build something different......
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Mon Dec 07, 2015 3:46 pm |
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elwood
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At least it is not made in China!! But it does seem that there is very little originality going on, There are a few that are unique, The Trixy, the Trendak/Xenon, etc.
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Mon Dec 07, 2015 3:48 pm |
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Gabor
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Yeah...trixy is uniquely killing people in a very large numbers....other than that there is nothing unique about that dog.
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Mon Dec 07, 2015 3:54 pm |
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Reminds me of the kit cars back in the day. Cheaply looking clones......I'll stick with the real deal if and when I can afford it. I am building a 2 place after the Wolverine is done. The Wolverine II. Got metal and an engine and some odd ball stuff I ordered for the Wolverine and could not use that I will use on the Wolverine II. No pics so it hasn't happened yet. Just planning. I don't know if it will be or look unique since I copy everyone's ideas and throw in some of my own tastes to keep me happy. I copied the Arrowcopters tail too......go figure!
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Mon Dec 07, 2015 4:14 pm |
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elwood
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All is good, yes it looks like a "knock off" But hey it might be cheaper, LOL.
I have boxes of parts for projects that have not been started yet, and ones that still have to be finished, but I can tell you exactly what I have for each,... I am going to finish my single place after I fix the dominator, then I am going to finish the 2 place, then I am going to start another project out of spare parts just to sell (or keep in case a gyro buddy stops by)..
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Mon Dec 07, 2015 4:45 pm |
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elwood
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That would be an awesome flight helmet!!
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MadMuz
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JonCarleton
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A shame they never made a "V-tail" version for Bonanza drivers....
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MadMuz
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JonCarleton wrote: A shame they never made a "V-tail" version for Bonanza drivers.... Or even a D tail (for the dickheads) I wont mention what the F tail is for
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Mon Dec 07, 2015 8:28 pm |
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Gabor
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MUZ you made me
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Mon Dec 07, 2015 8:51 pm |
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Flying Wolverine
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Now that deserves a NO SHIT!!!!!!!! Right Gary???
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Mon Dec 07, 2015 9:11 pm |
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phantom
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All that plastic and they still hang it from a gimbal head that is best left to gyros with a all up flying weight of 600 pounds. That tail should be fine, as for v tails they add an adverse roll moment to the airframe that just don't feel right, an inverted v works much better. Norm
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Gabor
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phantom wrote: All that plastic and they still hang it from a gimbal head that is best left to gyros with a all up flying weight of 600 pounds. That tail should be fine, as for v tails they add an adverse roll moment to the airframe that just don't feel right, an inverted v works much better. Norm Norm you are absolutely correct. The Russians did experiment with the V configuration that was also tall tail arrangement. Made the gyro wanting to roll more than anyone ever would like to. They have tried to save the machine by adding an additional vertical stabilizer right down in the middle further back from the V. Then crashed it...... In sharp turns the nose apparently tucked in pretty rapidly and the bottom of the V shape had way less clean airflow opposed to the top that made it very unevenly distributed creating an increased P factor combined with angular incidence on them. I think that was the end result I have read about the last time....I could be mistaken since it was written in Russian.
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elwood
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And besides all that technical stuff, it's just ugly!
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Tue Dec 08, 2015 8:36 am |
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Flying Wolverine
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Tue Dec 08, 2015 1:56 pm |
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elwood
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The one thing that I do like about it is that it has a CroMoly frame...it is not a "composite" aircraft like the arrow copter or the cavalon....not that that means anything, I know that composites have been proven. I just like a frame with skin over it. rather than a bathtub.
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MadMuz
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_________________ I do all of my own stunts..... most of them are even planned! Ok, Ok.... some of them are planned..
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Tue Dec 08, 2015 2:14 pm |
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Flying Wolverine
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Some ppl just can't stand asthestics...geeshhh. OH WELL..... back. I'm really just mad cuz they stole my stolen idea and beat me to it by actually building and finishing it!!! In any case my next build will be bad ass and I am sure i will have my detractors as well. It is just an attention to detail is the bomb and ppl know it!! That's why I like the ArrowCopter. It's the complete package for a guy like me...whatever that means!!
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