Bottom line: If the Gov endorses it they have been payed off, so RUN!
If they (Gov) say Flu shots are safe and everyone should get one, I am not getting one....

GMO-opposition is a funny bunch. If you live on anything else but forest mushrooms and roadkill, you eat GMO foods all the time. The process for intentionally manipulating genes in ancient days is called selective breeding. Sorting out un-wanted strains and only multiplying the wanted ones, was the sledgehammer method of GMO.
It lead to un-wanted side effects, the new plants were usually much less sturdy and needed a lot more fertilizer and pesticides to survive. Also they often lost desireable properties like vitamins.

The new GMO methods replaced the sledgehammer with a laser scalpel. Now you can change only the properties you want to change. However, I am not a friend of Mosanto getting a patent on a crop property, which has been used for generations by the people. It is like getting a patent on sunlight.

There are however, side-effects, which also require intensive research, for example possible impact on bee health. This can be a real kicker and some investigations point in the direction that, besides the mite, also some GMOs may negatively influence bees. Nothing that cannot be fixed by GMO, though.

Poison, by the way, is all a matter of dose. If you drink 6 litres of water, you die. If you eat 2 lbs of salt, you die. The mercury compound has been removed from vaccines for some time here in Europe and USA are usually stricter in these matters. But the mercury compound has been proven to be non-toxic. All attempts to link vaccines to ailments, like autism, have been proven wrong for years. The death or maiming by desease however is well proven. If a women gets rubella during certain phases of carrying a child, the child will be handicapped. 1 of a thousand measles cases end fatally, many more result in brain or organ damage.

K.

I hope, they never say "don't jump off buildings", I'd hate to lose you.

Sorry couldn't resist.

K.

Ha Ha, I would like to think that I am too smart for that one Kraut, I would however go down and gather the wallets of the ones that jumped.

Back to Stans thread.....I have not had any GOOD corn or Good beef since I moved from Indiana,

How it used to be done! circa 1971 Enjoy

https://vimeo.com/69854648

Scott- Boy....does that bring back memories! I always dreamed of having my own spray plane and doing dads farms back in 1983 when I earned my PPSEL ....But I left the farm in 1986 and forgot about it. I watched the spray operations evolve from having flag men on each end of the field like in Scotts video....getting sprayed every pass of the plane.....to automatic tissue dispensers on the wing that would release a trail of square tissue paper onto the crop so the spray plane could see where to spray next. But.....then came GPS. Now the pilot looks at his screen as it electronically paints the field on his screen showing what's been sprayed.

Now our combines and tractors all have this information beaming back and forth to satellites.....showing exact yields as its coming into the combine....then using this info to adjust the fertilizer applicator as it puts varying rates of fertilizer on the fields. This efficiency in farming is necessary for the family farm to survive...iow...make money....and be the best provider of food that feeds the world.

The American farmer shares this technology with competing countries worldwide. Many people don't realize how important the American farmer is to our economy.


Back to spraying crops...
I did spray our farm from a hi-boy crop sprayer. That guy handling those chemicals without gloves used to be me, but then I started wearing big gloves, goggles, etc.

We used to spray our waterways with some stuff called 245T.....that is dioxin...aka....agent orange in Vietnam. It was the most powerful chemical in our arsenal....but they outlawed it.

We used to spray Banvil on our corn to kill smart weeds. It was about the only chemical that would kill that plant....but it could kill a neighbors soybeans a mile away if the wind was right...just the smell of Banvil would curl the leaves.

I left farming in 1986....and soon after they started coming out with these genetic modified seeds that would protect the corn and soybeans from Roundup....which used to kill anything green. The biggest change since I left farming were super clean fields, unheard of yields, less chemicals, no more cultivating. This freed up the farmer to be able to handle several thousand acres...
or have a full time off farm job and still be able to farm 500 acres easily.

Of course there are negative aspects to GMO seeds...but as mentioned, they are surgically altering genetics...and getting better at it.

But....just as when I was farming, the bugs and weeds mutate slowly evolve resistance to chemicals and genetics...they adapt and change their play book.....and the circle continues. But, the yields are steadily rising, using less chemicals on the crops, using less fuel and machinery wear and tear to make us the best and cheapest fed nation ever.

Elwood I haven't done the proper research so I am not going to claim to be a knowledgeable authority.
But I know that even an aspirin has a side effect.

I have a story about that too......Yes even asprin and NSAIDS have side effects. No mater what your doctor says.

What a lot of people don't realise when it comes to multiple medications, is what if someone takes 7 different medications and an asprin..... who can guarantee that some of the chemicals can't get together and make something nasty and unpredictable? Whose to say that 2 or 3 of them don't get together and turn into something weird, or even deadly?

That's why I take phuck all..... you get enough drugs and steroids in your food without having to pay for more on purpose

To get some clues the the answer ... to your last ??? ..... you need to look past the modern medical "science" ..... we are the 3rd & 4 th generations receiving multiple profound "toxic shocks" to our "energy" systems ... this has a cumulative effect on our genetic make-up ... when you look at the pre-scientific/ non-western era knowledge of "folk-medicine"/ ... some explanations make good sense! ...... visit more on the topic @ BD's!!!

Looking forward spending bunch of time with you at BD

i actually have a number of thots on this complicated topic, but am too lazy to type them.

happy to share my thots with Wolverines, ESPECIALLY IF THERE ARE DONUTS INVOLVED !!!!!!!!!!

fj

BDays forever !?!?!

We'll all sit around the fire and solve all the worlds problems.. LOL

Just like we do every year.

And I wanna hear them thots!
Long live Dunkin!

Donuts are poison!

From an evolutionary perspective the irony is simple. Man is too successful as a species, hence we overrun and destroy all other species and the balance of things in the process.
Every medical or technological advance is ultimately a step backwards from a global evolutionary perspective. A species can only be successful at the expense of other species.
Sure NSAIDS, codeine, and Tylenol are bad for you, the alternative is simply not to take them and live with pain. Each to his own, there's no free lunch.
For those who like to read, The Sixth Extinction, is a very thought provoking book, looking at man's 'success' from an evolutionary perspective.
In the big scheme of things our time is short, most of our fretting about these things is only going to make a make a marginal change to the outcome.
So that's why I drink Gabor's beer, and plan to have a big time at BD. Maybe even a poisonous donut or two

Hell even I will drink my own beer than!
Long live the hops too.....

Mmmmmm Beer and donuts......We used to do that in the AF after getting off work from night shift
We would go get a pitcher of beer and some donuts at the PAX terminal at 0700 hours!
But I was in my 20's then and could do things like that... LOl

I will be humbled to share my thots, AS LONG AS YER IN FRONT OF ME !!!!!!!!!!!

most of my thots are humbling, including the ASININE WAY JH is getting treated on that DYSFUNCTIONAL FORUM !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

go JOHN,

fick you gabor,

fj

ps

Lofty, I drool over your posts, - seem very thotful FOR A FICKER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!