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MadMuz
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_________________ I do all of my own stunts..... most of them are even planned! Ok, Ok.... some of them are planned..
If electricity comes from ELECTRONS, then surely morality comes from MORONS??
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ScaryGary
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I could do that !
_________________ Ever notice in life occasionally you'll come across somebody you never should have fucked with ? Well that's me !
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Mon Feb 02, 2015 10:25 am |
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loftus
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Have to see if I have any takers at SkyDive Deland!
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Mon Feb 02, 2015 10:43 am |
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Hellified
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Steve McGowan had one jump from his gyro at Mentone.
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Mon Feb 02, 2015 10:49 am |
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Hillberg
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Did you see him almost grab the control tube? Check your issued limitations they may prohibit jumping.
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Mon Feb 02, 2015 1:45 pm |
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Hillberg wrote: Did you see him almost grab the control tube? Check your issued limitations they may prohibit jumping. Yeah, definitely just joking about giving it any thoughts in my gyro. Looks like an MTO, also has handles in the back, so looks like they may do this on a a regular basis. Lots of potential issues trying to do this I think
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Mon Feb 02, 2015 2:02 pm |
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Gabor
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_________________A walk in the woods helps me relax and release tension. The fact that I am dragging a body should be entirely irrelevant! A simple thank you would have been enough for the morning coffee without all that "how did you get in here" nonsense.
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Mon Feb 02, 2015 2:05 pm |
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loftus
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I will only do it, if you are the one jumping
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Mon Feb 02, 2015 2:09 pm |
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Hillberg
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Nothing like getting a Letter of investigation and the long process of having the FAA admin breathing between the cheeks to see the light.
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Mon Feb 02, 2015 2:13 pm |
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Gabor
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That would tip the machine over on the first try. Are you comfy with barrel rolls?
_________________A walk in the woods helps me relax and release tension. The fact that I am dragging a body should be entirely irrelevant! A simple thank you would have been enough for the morning coffee without all that "how did you get in here" nonsense.
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Mon Feb 02, 2015 2:13 pm |
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ScaryGary
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Just roll inverted and let gravity take over .
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Mon Feb 02, 2015 7:26 pm |
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GyroGeorgia
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Gabor wrote: That would tip the machine over on the first try. Are you comfy with barrel rolls? Granted I am not a gyro pilot (yet)... however... Seems to me there is the potential to unload the rotor if a significant amount of weight exits the gyro... especially if it causes a sideways motion as well as removing the weight. Obviously this did not happen, as the gyro landed... Anyone want to explain the dynamics of the rotor and what would be happening if, say, 175# all of a sudden was not being supported by the rotor, and there was a push towards the left? THX
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Mon Feb 02, 2015 8:24 pm |
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Hellified
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John- Very negligible results. I have heard several say so that did it. It's like a momentary updraft is all.
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Mon Feb 02, 2015 8:56 pm |
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GyroGeorgia
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Hellified wrote: John- Very negligible results. I have heard several say so that did it. It's like a momentary updraft is all. I am surprised... I figured it would be more. THX Stan.
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MadMuz
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GyroGeorgia wrote: Gabor wrote: That would tip the machine over on the first try. Are you comfy with barrel rolls? Granted I am not a gyro pilot (yet)... however... Seems to me there is the potential to unload the rotor if a significant amount of weight exits the gyro... especially if it causes a sideways motion as well as removing the weight. Obviously this did not happen, as the gyro landed... Anyone want to explain the dynamics of the rotor and what would be happening if, say, 175# all of a sudden was not being supported by the rotor, and there was a push towards the left? THX I doubt it would be any worse than a little turbulence.... I was more worried about him grabbing the control tube or going thru the prop Had I been the pilot, I think I would have cross controlled to get the prop and tail out the opposite side, so he was falling away from the machine, not past it.... but then, I wouldn't have done anyway.... personally It is not legal in I know that for sure (prolly for those exact reasons)
_________________ I do all of my own stunts..... most of them are even planned! Ok, Ok.... some of them are planned..
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Tue Feb 03, 2015 5:34 am |
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JonCarleton
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The meatbombs at Cedartown were always trying to get me to drop one of them when I was flying the Bulldozer regularly.
I have a, "Just Say NO to Meatbombs," general policy.
_________________ Jon Carleton Private ASEL Instrument Sport Pilot Gyroplane
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Hellified
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John- Very wise choice! I can see so much going wrong...something getting hung up, control rod being grabbed...last second change of mind and now all the contortionist movements getting out of the seat....and now back into it.
But the actual clean release of the passenger would just be like Madmuz said...some turbulence. The rotors are still under load...they will be spinning a little bit faster because of the passengers weight....and then will send that extra energy when the weight of the passenger is gone, and will cause a momentary bit of climb.
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Tue Feb 03, 2015 3:38 pm |
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JonCarleton
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Stahn:
I agree that it has been done with minimal impact and that (aside from meatbomb errors you describe above) the outcome for the gyroplane pilot is relatively benign. I suspect that the impact could be more than expected under certain conditions.
Three factors come to mind: 1. Weight of the meatbomb. 2. Weight of the gyroplane. 3. Wing loading of the rotor.
Imagine a very light-weight 2-place with minimal wing loading deplaning "Jabba the Ubermeatbomb." Granted, this is a fairly unusual and unlikely situation, but not impossible. It would be an interesting study to see if there is a safety curve relating the above factors...or if it is all merely jibberish and nothing about which to be concerned.
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MadMuz
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_________________ I do all of my own stunts..... most of them are even planned! Ok, Ok.... some of them are planned..
If electricity comes from ELECTRONS, then surely morality comes from MORONS??
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