Damn...Gay or not, nobody needs to be herded into a room and shot.
Sad, it was most likely a "Gun Free Zone" as any Class "A" liquor license establishment would be. The fact that Gays are often targets and Florida is the home of Shall issue Concealed Carry didn't seem to help here.

Now all the left leaning loonies will begin in on gun control, but maybe....just maybe, some of the Gay community will wake the fuck up and realize the left/progressive/pro-Muslim democrat politicians are trying to import more people who want to throw them off rooftops.

This schmuck who seems to be a registered democrat and Hillary supporter (according to some news sources so far) was born here in the US to Muslim parents...and has recently had ties to radical islam . glad cops shot him, wish a CC holder in the club had though.

shame about Christina Grimmie as well, but not islam related.....

People, carry EVERYWHERE.....legal or not. The only time I'm not packing is in the shower.

That is terrible.... Like you said, what a shame no one in there was armed??

I am surprised not one person in the 100+ were carrying? .....

that sux

Condolences to their friends and families... no one deserves that

Much more of this and it wont be safe for bom chukkas to be in America.... I am sure when the moooslimes push enough peoples buttons.... it will be open season and they will want/need to be refugeeez some place else

And, he was born in America... what an asshole

The authorities should round up any of his family and send them somewhere else too... they prolly all think the same way as dickhead Slimebags

They smile at you one minute and murder you the next

Maybe ppl should arm themselves with some composite type weapons so they can be armed in places where you are NOT ALLOWED
to be in order to have a means to protect yourself in Safe Spaces and Gun Free Zones.

Carbon Fiber Knives only need to work once. Also you only need one shot anyway if it comes to that.

One Shot - One Kill, so the story goes.........

What these idiots (elected officials and so forth) is that islam is NOT a religion, but a theocratic system of govenment, and it is in now way shape or form compatible with our western style of gov, and belief system, they will not assimilate. their mission is to kill us and take over the world,
the only peaceful mooslums are the one who are waiting for the right time to stab you in the back.

Wolvie, I pack, religiously. I work exclusively in areas where it is a felony to posses.
The fastest way to become awesome at concealing a real usable firearm is to pack where you can not legally.
Although I love the new Carbon Fiber Knives, how much use would that be against an AK wielding assailant for average people?
When people begin to realize the punishment for illegal ANYTHING is offset by the benefits of "following the rules" then the massive non-compliance movement I have been predicting will begin.

It will start in a three fold way I believe.
First off, Taxes....people will realize en masse that the govt they don't like or support needs their money and that half the population doesn't pay any....they will just stop.

Two, healthcare burdens will push people to realize that non payment of debt has very little consequences, (mortgage lenders don't even look at healthcare debt for loans anymore) and that will naturally extend to repayment of school loans and credit debt leading to more and more of the "small guy following the rules" having to pay more and more kinda like car insurance....

Three, firearms laws will be pushed so far off the deep end, people will just ignore any new laws that come down the pipe. Its already beginning...look at Youtube with people showing videos of their new "non-sbr" rifles with arm adapters and such.

It will take a centralized leader type to bring all of them together, but the effect will be pronounced.


One other major player in the forefront is going to be legalization of drugs. either they do it now and tax it, or they will see the ship sail away without them. between Phillip Morris and the drug cartels/Mexican Gov't the corporations will begin to grow legal pot for the mass consumption....look at it the same as the oil industry and spills....they make 100,000,000 dollars a day, and any spill costs 100,000,000....so every day they don't have a spill (most of them) is all gravy, why change?

Non compliance worked (sort of) for Ghandi....who will our Ghandi be?

If only 1% of Muslims are "radicals", willing to kill and die to further their cause against the west and Isreal and there are 1.5 Billion Muslims, that works out to 15 million radicals, it only takes one to shoot up a bar or take out an airplane.

The solution is NOT "compassion and education"

unfortunately it is eradication. but bombing them back to the stone age wont help, they already ARE in the stone age. you need to cut off the money....immediately and totally. No more oil monies. not one penny. Next ZERO emigration. Sure this will devastate the already roach like multitudes who are living off handouts, but in one generation the problem will fix itself.
other solutions abound, but you run the risk of going down the path of Nazism.

Benry for Prez!!

In Florida our gun laws allow you to carry anywhere! Except of course gubment buildings.
The signs on businesses have no meanings!!!
Legally that is. They however do have the right to refuse doing business with you if your shoulder launcher sticks out a bit from under your t-shirt.
This was NOT a gun problem.
It is Ramadan right now..... This was not a Christian Southern Baptist boy.
Soooooo.....these leaders need to fall behind Trump in a fucking hurry!
Note to Ryan, Romney, Graham and all the ones who still don't fucking get it!
You are endangering American lives with the political correctness.
And yes a Mexican judge should recuse himself of the case too when he is a $2700 donor to Hillary!!!!!
Anyways. This guy was a registered democrat too!!!!
The happiest place on earth is now nervous as shit.
This could fuck up Orlando as nothing else.
Disney,Church street station, Universal studios, Seaworld and all the shit that relies on tourism.
Keep bringing them in bitches and turn this fucking country into Syria. Why not?

Gabs, I know both Florida and Arizona have the "Bar" laws on the books for concealed carriers, but here if the "bar" doesn't make 60% of the revenue from food sales its still a no go. That way its legal for carry in places like Applebees and such.
Is it different in Florida?
Here we all just ignore it anyway.

Thanks Muz, but the only person who would want that job is someone who is already "broken"

We do have the same as you guys there. The bars, pubs are forbidden but restaurants are not.
If it is not enforced by search I would carry.
It would have taken one gun and a good steady hand to take this piece of shit out.
But then again...these were mostly liberal people in there.

When I had my shop, the lgbtq-xyz'ers quickly learned that this Jews first rule of business was "money is green"
I didn't treat them any different than any other customer and the word spread quickly.
They were just as apt to need a gun as a young girl going to college in my opinion.

It took this shit head 3 hours to get killed, somebody, was packing there. They may well live with the guilt of inaction for the rest of their lives.

Don't think you can hide much with skin tight latex and 'G' Strings......a skirt maybe?

And that is just the guys

Ovomit speech.....gun control....nothing about radical islamists....no surprise there.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... ation.html

Yeah, heard it on the radio here... what a dickhead

It's a perfect storm we live in. Sadly, responsible gun owners and the NRA also have to recognize that we have to devise ways that prevent our freedoms from arming the enemies within our midst. Our freedoms have become the weak underbelly that we cannot protect without limiting them, whether you're talking about gun control, or trying to limit people according to their religion.
A good article here.
http://www.jpost.com/International/ANAL ... ges-456581

Good article. I am always confused though by the term hate crime.
What difference does it make?
When did anyone hear of love crimes?
Obviously a person who commits something like this has to be a hating mofo.
Hating in this proportion is the creation of the media, politicians, social media like this forum.
We freely can spread our dislike and people like that idiot redbaron one day take more pills than usual and go and shoot up a fucking black church.
Are we responsible for his action? Fuck no!
In this society personal responsibility has gone in value to the point that it reads in the minus on the scale.
Our current president takes a pride in pitting people against each other.
Funny how the more civilized we have gotten the less willing people got to defend radically themselves.
In the old days Orlando would be out on the streets with pitchforks burning the muslim houses down!!!!
Now we have to have the authorities handling everything.
Maybe......just maybe the time will come when "we the people" will once again take matters in our hands and ignore the political correctness in favor of our children's and our loved ones' safety.

I liked that...Oh, you mean the cooling fan??
When it stops turning you start to sweat - a lot!
I believe only in engineering books...my choice....
Cheers
Erik

Yeah, I tried being gay once....

had to give it up....


Made my eyes water too much


so I decided to become a lesbian instead... but my tongue got sore from licking carpet .... not to mention it made little bald patches in the carpets

So, I just decided to stay me instead