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Dropbear
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Fri Aug 07, 2015 11:58 am |
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Arnie M.
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This could be an interesting topic. Certainly things are astir in the world , a stage is being set ,
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Fri Aug 07, 2015 12:41 pm |
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Hillberg
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ISIS rolls into Saudi Arabia the oil exchange gets wacked the fiat currency U.S. dollar that is backed by oil becomes toilet paper . Looters get a front row seat in a WalMart detention camp and a oneway ticket to the showers
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Fri Aug 07, 2015 12:48 pm |
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Hellified
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Chris- That and there is so much more. I have stuck my neck out ..and am being scoffed by family and friends. I am trying yo remain mute from now on ..unless directly asked.
I have been extremely busy getting ready...many things even my wife isn't aware of.
I will not forget my promise to admit I was wrong if nothing MAJOR has happened by the end of the yesr . I am convinced it will start next month.
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Fri Aug 07, 2015 3:23 pm |
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PJgyro
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Stan, I am right there with you! In the past 3 months I have pulled over 80% of my holdings out of the stock market, consolidating all I can and really hunkering down. All my senses are sounding alarms. When all these interconnected dominoes start to tumble it's going to be one colossal "train wreck"! I'm as nervous as a long-tailed cat in a room full of rocking chairs, but like you, I am hoping I am wrong. I will be happy to be laughed at.
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Fri Aug 07, 2015 4:13 pm |
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Arnie M.
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I would not be surprised if the stock market takes a nosedive , it has happened ever since the stock market was formed.
But I take issue with it having anything to do with the Jewish 7 year Shmita , we are not Jews , the USA is not Israel , and the USA economy does not follow a 7 year cycle.
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Fri Aug 07, 2015 5:09 pm |
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Arnie M.
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The guy in the video is using the old brainwash technique
1. Create fear , an enemy , or danger (market crash) 2. Toss in some "convincing" evidence (pluck stuff out of the air that happens to fit) 3. Provide a solution (Purchase his newsletter)
That is what he is doing .
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Fri Aug 07, 2015 5:17 pm |
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Arnie M.
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In order to instill fear , might as well pluck 6 closed Walmarts out of the air and make them fit .... toss in some American Troops on American Soil and hint that resisters will be housed in the closed Stores ... Ahem .
Want to close your local Walmart ? ... have the employees begin forming a Union and all of a sudden the Store will have plumbing problems and will have to be shut down for a long time , could take months
Walmart shut down 6 of its under-performing wholesale outlets in Canada because they could not compete with Cosco. Nobody has plans to house political resistors in the buildings. Somebody else rented them anyway
When Walmart came to Canada they bought the languishing Woolco Store Chain and converted it with success , the only Woolco stores they did not take over were unionized.
What does this have to do with Shmita and the Stock Market ? ... absolutely nothing , that is the point.
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Fri Aug 07, 2015 5:33 pm |
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Arnie M.
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The guy in the video knows the stock market does not follow the Jewish Shmita of giving agricultural land a 7 year Sabbath rest , so he tossed in the Walmart scarrrry story (above) but he needed something even scarrrier on a global scale so he had to go pluck something else out of thin air to make you buy his investment newsletter
Thus he mis-quotes French Foreign Minister who in May 2014 said we on the edge of a climactic abyss and only have 500 days to do something about it .....
The French Minister said Climatic Abyss (not climactic) .... and he was talking about the climate change meeting in September 2015 (500 days later) .....
In other words the Guy in the Video trying to get you to subscribe to his newsletter by using a scare tactic from the global warming crowd .... one liar stealing from another liar.... gotta love it !!!!
What does this have to do with the Stock Market ? Absolutely nothing , that is the point.
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Fri Aug 07, 2015 6:08 pm |
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DasStuka
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On target Ernie! This old saw has been floating around since the beginning of time!
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Fri Aug 07, 2015 7:27 pm |
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Hellified
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I must say that I only saw the very beginning of the video Chris put up...I am on my cellphone and I assumed it was similar to other videos I have seen. I never saw the Walmart part...just the first 2 minutes. I will watch it in its entirety when I csn . There are indeed a lot of kooky videos out there. I scrutinize the information thrown out ...not just accepting it because soneone says something....and especially if they are promoting their book.
The top 7 stock market crashes happened in the Shemitah year which runs from September to September of the following year...every 7 years. In other words, Shemitah years began in September of 1902-1909-1916-1923-1930-1937-1944-1951-1958-1965-1972-1979-1986-1993-2000-2007-2014-2021 etc.
Don't take my word for the following information..you can look these up and verify the Shemitah years.
As Arnie said, the Shemitah pertains to the Jews, but half the Jews are in the USA and are heavily involved in our financial system
Here are the top 7 stock market crashes ...everyone in the Shemitah year. Most of the top 20 crashes are on the Shemitah. Verify this for yourself like I did.
#7 crash Crash of 2000-2001 Dot-Com crash. Market lost 37% . Shemitah September 2000-September 2001
#6 crash. Crash of 1916-1917. Market lost 40% . Shemitah September 1916-September 1917
#5 crash . Crash of 1973. Market lost 45% . Shemitah September 1972-September 1973
#4 crash. Crash of 1901-1903 Market lost 46% . Shemitah September 1902-September 1903
#3 crash. Crash of 1937-1938. Market lost 50% . Shemitah September 1937-September 1938
#2 crash. Crash of 2007-2008. Market lost over 50% . Shemitah September 2007-September 2008
#1 crash. Crash of 1930-1932. Great Depression Market lost 86% . Shemitah September 1930-September 1931 .
Much more to this with EXACT dates of the crash of 2000-2001 and 2007-2008 falling on the very last day of the Shemitah year it was involved with.
The last day of this present Shemitah 2014-2015 is September 13th, 2015.
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Yaaaaa...... a day before my 52nd b-day. I got 9-11 and now I get shemita to look forward to..........Who ever said it was good to be a Virgo? Did u all know Jesus was a Virgo? He was crucified!
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Fri Aug 07, 2015 8:26 pm |
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Hellified
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Pjgyro- I have big shoulders....and have had my neck stuck out all year on this. I hope January 1st comes and we only have seen typical market swings....even a large drop. I have consistently capitalized MAJOR....and I firmly believe it. I am not " worried" but prudently preparing. There is so much more to this than just another Shemitah year stock market crash. It's what is going to cause the crash that concerns me. I hope January 1st sees nothing MAJOR has happened as I will post on that very day I was WRONG....and you all can laugh at me...and I will laugh right along! I feel so damn strong about this that I would rather tell how I feel and be wrong.....than say nothing and be right.
I have a major investment into 6 figures that is tied to the stock market that I can't touch until it matures next month. My agent is laughing at me....but that's ok.
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Fri Aug 07, 2015 8:57 pm |
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Hillberg
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2007-2008 I saw panic in the Sheriffs Dept. when their investments in retirement funds also crashed. they lost 40% It's a house of cards in the government when they lose they will tax everyone else,,,I don't like their label of 'sustainability' reads like Nazi Germany 1939......
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Fri Aug 07, 2015 9:20 pm |
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Hellified
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I have mentioned all the Shemitah years back to 1900. I decided to go investigate each and every Shemitah year from the year 1900 and record here what I found. You can google this information easily for yourself to verify.
The Shemitah year runs from September to September of the following year...in 7 year cycles starting here with 1901-1902....and there after every 7 years to the present Shemitah year we are in now. This current Shemitah year ends two weeks from today...on September 13th, 2015.
Shemitah year 1901-1902 saw a 46% U.S. stock market crash
Shemitah year 1916-1917....40% crash
Shemitah year 1930-1931...86% crash
Shemitah year 1937-1938...50% crash
Shemitah year 1965-1966...23% crash
Shemitah year 1972-1973...48% crash
Shemitah year 1979-1980..Not sure of % loss...but U.S.and global recession
Shemitah year 1986-1987...33% crash
Shemitah year 1993-1994...Not sure of % loss..but bond market crash
Shemitah year 2000-2001...37% crash
Shemitah year 2007-2008...50% crash
Shemitah year 2014-2015..nothing has happened yet compared to above
Conclusion....Nothing major has to happen every Shemitah year as the gaps not listed above indicate so....but are the ones listed above a significant eyebrow raising pattern?
Would it be a coincidence if another crash occurs by the end of this present Shemitah year with 2 weeks left of it? I do not consider the much smaller drop we have had the last couple of weeks worthy of calling it significant in comparison to the above listed.
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Sun Aug 30, 2015 7:18 am |
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MadMuz
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_________________ I do all of my own stunts..... most of them are even planned! Ok, Ok.... some of them are planned..
If electricity comes from ELECTRONS, then surely morality comes from MORONS??
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Sun Aug 30, 2015 7:53 am |
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Arnie M.
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7 year cycles in the markets is nothing new , it "sort of" has had that pattern all along , I do not invest in stocks , but since the 1970's I have known of the general 7 year cycles .
If somebody was to ask me if I thought it was a "planned" cycle , my off the cuff remark would mention some of the biggest money folks in the world are often Jewish financiers and it would not surprise me if a lot of them conveniently sold their stocks during years 5 and 6 of the cycle. If I was a smart banker that is what I would do too . If "they" happened to use the "Hebrew calendar" would not be a surprise.
You know me Heli .... I love this stuff , patterns , numbers , world events , signs , but in the case of the above video the guy is trying to get subscribers to his news letter and that made me flare up and point out he is not a Shemita Guy .... he is a salesman using whatever tactics are convenient .
I would find it very interesting if you are able to speculate on patterns , or numbers , or cycles ..... you never know , there is always something new to discover
If the next "crash" reconciles with Shemita , great , it is bound to happen anyway. If it doesn't , no big deal.
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gyromike
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Hellified wrote: I have mentioned all the Shemitah years back to 1900. I decided to go investigate each and every Shemitah year from the year 1900 and record here what I found. You can google this information easily for yourself to verify.
The Shemitah year runs from September to September of the following year...in 7 year cycles starting here with 1901-1902....and there after every 7 years to the present Shemitah year we are in now. This current Shemitah year ends two weeks from today...on September 13th, 2015.
Shemitah year 1901-1902 saw a 46% U.S. stock market crash
Shemitah year 1916-1917....40% crash
Shemitah year 1930-1931...86% crash
Shemitah year 1937-1938...50% crash
Shemitah year 1965-1966...23% crash
Shemitah year 1972-1973...48% crash
Shemitah year 1979-1980..Not sure of % loss...but U.S.and global recession
Shemitah year 1986-1987...33% crash
Shemitah year 1993-1994...Not sure of % loss..but bond market crash
Shemitah year 2000-2001...37% crash
Shemitah year 2007-2008...50% crash
Shemitah year 2014-2015..nothing has happened yet compared to above
Conclusion....Nothing major has to happen every Shemitah year as the gaps not listed above indicate so....but are the ones listed above a significant eyebrow raising pattern?
Would it be a coincidence if another crash occurs by the end of this present Shemitah year with 2 weeks left of it? I do not consider the much smaller drop we have had the last couple of weeks worthy of calling it significant in comparison to the above listed. Is there a pattern of crashes in non-Shemita years, and if so what does the pattern suggest?
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Hellified
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Arnie- I am just transferring information that I have googled myself....and not from someones site selling a book. Its simply fact what I posted.....take it as a coincidence or not all the crashes that occurred in the Shemitah year. If every Shemitah year resulted in a crash....there would still be some that say it is just a coincidence.
Then there is the topic of the Jubilee year....which is the year following every 7th Shemitah.
1917 -1918 was a Jubilee year.....Palestine was seized by the United Kingdom and the Balfour Declaration in 1917 started support for a Jewish homeland in Palestine.
1966-1967 was the next Jubilee year. Israel won the 6 day way and gained much territory and the east part of Jerusalem
September 23rd, 2015 starts the next Jubilee year which ends in September of 2016. Many expect Israel to be engaged in another war.
Just being the messenger here of hard facts.
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Hellified
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Mike- There are not near as many crashes in non Shemitah years....and the Shemitah years have the 7 largest covered. The ones I listed are the majority of the major crashes. When I have more time....I can compile non Shemitah year crashes versus Shemitah year crashes. I assure you that the Shemitah years which are only 1/7 the number of non Shemitah years will win the majority of crashes. Again... consider that a Shemitah year has only 1/7th the number of years to compile these amazing statistics versus the non shemitah years. I am just relaying information I have googled myself and not selling a book!
There simply is overwhelming odds showing something is connected to the Shemitah year cycle that reflects in the stock market.....or its a coincidence. My definition of coincidence has been exceeded with this phenomena.
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