I made the first video as a basic way to understand what's going on. I have had 4 rotor flaps one of which could have killed me. The really bad one I did not even know what was happening. I was at that time new and no one every discussed what it was. It rolled heavy to the right but I pulled out of it and was lucky it quit. I took the flap right into the air. It felt like everything was going to let loose the got faster and faster. One last hard bump with a ton of right roll and it stoped.
It was not untill the next day I figured out what happened. Then I spent a few hours figuring out how and what happens and when I caught that minor flap starting on video I made that clip.
It hard for me in that second video to tell what happened partially because it's in slow motion. But the blades seem to me to be way slow. Also bumpy runways with slow rotor RPM do not help at all.
They can actually start the flap.

Who is that good looking guy in the first vid?

In the second one, I looked at the orientation of the rotor disk to the machine, to see if the rotors were hinging/flapping, where the dissymmetry of lift has the lowest rotor riding on the stop and causing the stick to stir..... The rotors were exactly where they should have been for flight, there was no flap or stalling imo, the pilot simply pulled the nose up and left it up.... there was nowhere else for the rotor path to go other than where it went.... to the ground..... that was simply pilot error or untrained pilot.... or training pilot who had a brain fart. The rotors appeared to be a bit slow, but had he allowed the machine to stay level by letting the nose down, (it should never been allowed to get that high in the first place) that wouldn't have happened. That is why I think hops are a good thing, not intending to fly high, simply take off from 3 wheels, scoot along at a few feet then land on the mains and stop.... then repeat a 1000 times It is also the reason I don't like balancing on the mains as a training thing.... but that is another story....

That guy was like, trying to balance on the tail.... which wont work.... as he found out

I think I might have to agree with you MuZ. It looks like it strikes the ground from the rear with a very high nose. It's hard to see for me because I am watching it at a roadside rest area on an IPhone in Florida. That makes for a very small picture.
I am flying the TAG in Wachula tomorrow.

Thanks, I am basing my opinion on the fact the rotors aren't high at the front and low over the tail.... they appeared to stay in the right orientation to the mast, horizontal to the keel.... had they been flapping, hinging really bad, the nose of the machine would have stirred like the stick... however, I didn't see any flapping movements... until the rotor touched the ground.... then a whole lotta flapping occurred Also, if it had been flapping with the rotors going that slow, he would have caught a rotor on the top if the tall tail before the ground strike......

All he had to do was lower the nose.... would have been ok I reckon he was in too much of a hurry to get flying with his mate and forgot to concentrate on what he was doing

What? You are in Florida? Why didn't we know about dat?

I got to Pensicola last night now I am due in Wachula in the morning. Delivery time.
I will be flying the Far Superior TAG tomarrow. With no rotor flap.
After this trip I will have covered 18000 miles from March 25 to now. And flown gyros in 7 states.
With 5 diffrent models.

Jeff knew I was comming down.

Bloody Jeff... what a trouble maker

Nothing important.... only that Des will be driving right past you house

Nothing to see here.... move along, move along....

This is not the Desmon you are looking for

I bet he will get a ride in the TAG! Nice Lofty...niiiiceeee

It's possible that Jeff developed his FICKERHOOD personality at a very young age, maybe ????

Looks like he's turned out PRETTY DARN GOOD, if that was the case !?!!!

fj