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No worries.... if you like Dr Who, you could paint it blue and call it the tardis? :laughing :laughing :Wolvie

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You do have a point Muz. One of the things on many of the newer enclosed machines as well is the way many of the critical parts are obscured by cowlings etc. As much as I love the look of Larry's Calidus, I don't envy him when it comes to working on the damn thing. Even the simplest engine task requires removal of cowlings, and then things have to be placed to fit within the cowlings adding complexity like radiators on top of the engine with thermostat activated fans, which have to be moved even for the smallest things to be done on the engine etc. There are problems with the custom shaped fuel tanks, etc, etc.
Especially for the self-build market here in the US this creates a lot of potential problems, and sometimes they can be dangerous. It makes it impossible to preflight quite as thoroughly etc, etc. I would imagine that a gyro like the Arrowcopter could be a nightmare from that perspective.
The open two places like the MTO, Magni etc still keep it easy to see and work on the engine, access critical control points for preflight etc.


Mon Feb 16, 2015 11:25 am
You do have a point Muz. One of the things on many of the newer enclosed machines as well is the way many of the critical parts are obscured by cowlings etc. As much as I love the look of Larry's Calidus, I don't envy him when it comes to working on the damn thing. Even the simplest engine task requires removal of cowlings, and then things have to be placed to fit within the cowlings adding complexity like radiators on top of the engine with thermostat activated fans, which have to be moved even for the smallest things to be done on the engine etc. There are problems with the custom shaped fuel tanks, etc, etc.
Especially for the self-build market here in the US this creates a lot of potential problems, and sometimes they can be dangerous. It makes it impossible to preflight quite as thoroughly etc, etc. I would imagine that a gyro like the Arrowcopter could be a nightmare from that perspective. There's definitely a tradeoff for making things more sleek and comfortable, reducing drag etc.
The open two places like the MTO, Magni etc still keep it easy to see and work on the engine, access critical control points for preflight etc.


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MadMuz wrote:
No worries.... if you like Dr Who, you could paint it blue and call it the tardis? :laughing :laughing :Wolvie


Good one Muz...

Now lets see how many folks understand... :laughing

Then ask them why the answer is '42'... :Wolvie

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Mon Feb 16, 2015 11:49 am
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GyroGeorgia wrote:
MadMuz wrote:
No worries.... if you like Dr Who, you could paint it blue and call it the tardis? :laughing :laughing :Wolvie


Good one Muz...

Now lets see how many folks understand... :laughing

Then ask them why the answer is '42'... :Wolvie

Must have something to do with Daleks


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I remember when I was flying FW... got to know a guy with a Mooney. That aircraft was absolutely a mess to work on.

Few thing could be accessed easily... it was like working under the hood of an expensive European car... Spend a few hours taking things off... to do a simple task (regular task)... then put them all back on.

While stick built gyro's are draggy... at least one can easily and thoroughly pre-flight them... and work on them.

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What I like about Lofty's, is you can have the motor off and on the bench in a couple of hours, without disrupting too much bodywork.... we took the 914 out of an ELA, took a few hours, but most of it was taking pics and tagging wires and hoses etc etc.... easy job :like :pop

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