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_________________ I do all of my own stunts..... most of them are even planned! Ok, Ok.... some of them are planned..
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_________________ A walk in the woods helps me relax and release tension. The fact that I am dragging a body should be entirely irrelevant! A simple thank you would have been enough for the morning coffee without all that "how did you get in here" nonsense.
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Gabor wrote: ps: Does this make me an asshole? Oh I see it's not this that does it....I just am  Depends on the view... To me, it show you are a quality person: You are sharing the calendar with folks not particularly on your close friends list. To folks who do not understand (you, and your ways)... well not many folks I know who are successful, really worry much about what their less than friendly acquaintances think. Good move Gabs... being friendly, while rubbing it in. Wonder if the 'other' calendar will ever get made... 
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Gabor
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_________________ A walk in the woods helps me relax and release tension. The fact that I am dragging a body should be entirely irrelevant! A simple thank you would have been enough for the morning coffee without all that "how did you get in here" nonsense.
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MadMuz
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GyroGeorgia wrote: Gabor wrote: ps: Does this make me an asshole? Oh I see it's not this that does it....I just am  Wonder if the 'other' calendar will ever get made...  GG, from what I have heard, the 'other' 2015 calendar should be due for release in mid November (2016) $50 each 
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Mon Sep 29, 2014 11:12 pm |
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I think Brent will, however he was asking instructors to pay into it for advertising but do not think he got any takers. Brent is a doer so I suspect this will not stop him. The funds would be used to get a hard copy back into the members hands, but we will see. Competition is a good thing, and the more calendars out there with rotorcraft on them the better = win/win.
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Gabor
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Exactly. I hope for the sakes of the organization that you and Brent and Tom can make things happen. Don't let the dinosaurs stop you! This really is not a competition. I see it as having choices. The more the better. 
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Gabor wrote: Exactly. I hope for the sakes of the organization that you and Brent and Tom can make things happen. Don't let the dinosaurs stop you! This really is not a competition. I see it as having choices. The more the better.  My 1st year on the BOD, this year, and my ideas/solutions offering my labor was out voted or not even allowed to be added to the agenda and little changed, same with Greg's. Only marketing the airport was approved if I did it, great one step forward. Today it's paying off the airport electrical system is being upgraded and we have at least two large Groups (One is Sam's Club) wishing to schedule their conventions here once the electrical is finished. So maybe next year or the following to be added to their schedule. Conventions are scheduled two years in advance so the revenue stream will start slow but it will grow. The not being added to the agenda problem, I had never experienced on any BOD before and has now been corrected, that's another great change! I understand why so many BOD members come and go or do not participate once their ideas or offer with labor have been shot down, and then they do not participate as much or quit the PRA and BOD. However, I'm on other Boards and it about the same there too. The difference I won't shut up or go away because I'm much more used to it than other members who come try and then get discourage, so just patience and persistence is needed. Same with our volunteers in the past... like Jon have offered and the that BOD did not use them. This year I ask Gabor, Tommy, and Brent to run for PRA BOD members. Tommy and Brent did and we now have 3 working BOD members working on different projects and helping each other too... we are finally moving forward like never before. If I can close the deal I'm working on now and this BOD approves it PRA will be restored to where it once was and the biggest complaint solved. Either way there is and will be more revenue too from renting out our unique airport/ camping/ convention center for the 1st time advertizing/ marketing it so either our dues will go down or we will use it for member benefits like group insurance etc and there will be more advertizing and donation revenue too. Part of my dream is a fleet of co-owned rental rotorcraft as a member benefit, and a PRA Storefront where members and manufactures can list all things rotorcraft with a revenue stream from a commission, an escrow account that assures delivery of goods before funds are paid to vendors and any PRA member can list there products like real and model rotorcraft, hats, shirts etc. If your not a PRA members there is a commission charged if you are a PRA members then you receive discounts. One for the commission charged and the vendors discount if they offer PRA members a discount. Many vendors do now. Guys image the ideas and what we could get done with Gabor helping PRA as a BOD members too?? Let's just replace the dinosaurs with doer and WOW what PRA could be. Things are about to change in a big way with this BOD, as we got working BOD members and some of the best volunteers like Chris who is so efficient. With just a little more help PRA could become whatever you wish it to be! Just let me know your ideas I'll get them on the agenda and then help me make then happen with labor and WOW what we could do for our sport!
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Hey John, When it comes to putting on big events where you need lots of volunteer hours there is a proven way to make sure you have full coverage. Some friends of mine have been putting on an annual event for about 10 years (non aviation) and every year have more volunteers than they can use because all volunteers that put in 8 hours (scheduled by a volunteer coordinator) receive a free ticket to the event. This is a 3-day event with many activities scheduled throughout. Each volunteer works in 2 or 3 hour shifts to a cumulative 8 hours worked and can also enjoy most of the event. Just a thought!! 
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GordonT wrote: Hey John, When it comes to putting on big events where you need lots of volunteer hours there is a proven way to make sure you have full coverage. Some friends of mine have been putting on an annual event for about 10 years (non aviation) and every year have more volunteers than they can use because all volunteers that put in 8 hours (scheduled by a volunteer coordinator) receive a free ticket to the event. This is a 3-day event with many activities scheduled throughout. Each volunteer works in 2 or 3 hour shifts to a cumulative 8 hours worked and can also enjoy most of the event. Just a thought!!  Sadly we haven't had the fund to even offer that. As an example I not only found the volunteers to help me run events but paid for the supplies need for them. But things are getting better.  So I will add your suggestion to our agenda in Oct. Also we invited the boy scouts to help run things and to get them exposed to rotorcraft for the last two years but they were in school. This year they may be out of school as we changed the date to follow AirVEnture. Thank you!
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MadMuz
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_________________ I do all of my own stunts..... most of them are even planned! Ok, Ok.... some of them are planned..
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I am producing them as the orders come in. Mailed the first batch out yesterday. Printing labels out and a thank you note signing them by hand to make it personal........ And the orders are keep coming in...... I wish they added postage to the damn thing!!!!! I hate to be a  but the production comes to $ 6.39 and if we pay the $1.89 that comes to $ 8.28 out of 10 bux......... doesn't leave much for the club!!!
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Gabor- I knew you suggested $10 and I guessed it would cost $2 to mail them, so I sent $15 cause I am not a  .......ha
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I hate to call them on it. But seriously....it really is common sense....I guess not. sneak peek
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_________________ A walk in the woods helps me relax and release tension. The fact that I am dragging a body should be entirely irrelevant! A simple thank you would have been enough for the morning coffee without all that "how did you get in here" nonsense.
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I think some folks just do not think... IMO better to just post a price that includes a little postage as well as a little for the club... and make it a round number. Say $10/ea and please add a donation for SW&RC That way... all your costs are covered. Nothing kills the volunteer spirit quicker than the perception of  folks taking advantage... regardless of whether it is true or not.
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_________________ A walk in the woods helps me relax and release tension. The fact that I am dragging a body should be entirely irrelevant! A simple thank you would have been enough for the morning coffee without all that "how did you get in here" nonsense.
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MadMuz wrote: Dam! Not on single nude woman Here's some to make up for it  I am reposting this as a quote just so that I can hit the 'Thank You' button again!!! I shucks, I can't thank myself. But nevertheless THANK YOU!
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