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skyguynca wrote:

I think way too many people are getting too comfortable with the idea that a bunch of electric motors are completely safe for air travel. That the in lab and test phase failure rate is so low that no need to worry......

I was in hueys (Don should remember this) when the Blackhawks were accepted and they told all us huey guys we had to transition (I was smart and when to Chinooks). Well wasn't a few months in service when we started seeing the yard darts diving in.......yep small electrical problem with the stabilator going full down on it own un-commanded. Couldn't stop it either. Well no one could admit to design flaw, lots of excuses about radio, radar, microwave etc interference causing the problem.

So the fix, well a trigger that kills power to the stabilator trim system. No fix because they never really knew why it happened.

Airbus installed a real system reset, did not fix their problem either.

The more complicated, they more sub-system controllers, they more loaded digital controlled systems they more they miss and they more problems show up totally unexpected when the un-tested scenarios finally show up and scare the total shit out of the operator or kill him.
:laughing

The fix, well as history shows it will be a KILL switch or a RESET button.

Author:	Hillberg [ Sat Nov 16, 2024 7:12 pm ]
Post subject:	Chinook gyro
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVc0RZoa28k

Author:	skyguynca [ Mon Nov 18, 2024 1:57 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Chinook gyro
Hillberg wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVc0RZoa28k Interesting exercise....but don't think its gonna get alot of followers

Author:	Hillberg [ Wed Nov 20, 2024 9:43 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Chinook gyro
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgNqFaL ... th=OTY3MTQ Don't do this at home

Author:	skyguynca [ Thu Nov 21, 2024 3:17 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Chinook gyro
Hillberg wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgNqFaLb4zc&embeds_referring_euri=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.homebuiltairplanes.com%2F&source_ve_path=OTY3MTQ Don't do this at home GREAT JOB!!!!!! Just goes to show you GOD loves fools and babies......... How was the landing he asked?.........well did you walk away from it? People just don't get it, just because a trained and responsible pilot can make it look easy, well it isn't. I wonder, did anyone hear him say "here hold my beer and watch this" before he started the engine? The first instance of this dates back to 1959 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-Xtobk09VQ

Author:	Hillberg [ Fri Nov 22, 2024 12:27 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Chinook gyro
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-QjncFbNWp4 Expensive junk

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Author:	skyguynca [ Fri Nov 22, 2024 8:31 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Chinook gyro
I think way too many people are getting too comfortable with the idea that a bunch of electric motors are completely safe for air travel. That the in lab and test phase failure rate is so low that no need to worry...... I was in hueys (Don should remember this) when the Blackhawks were accepted and they told all us huey guys we had to transition (I was smart and when to Chinooks). Well wasn't a few months in service when we started seeing the yard darts diving in.......yep small electrical problem with the stabilator going full down on it own un-commanded. Couldn't stop it either. Well no one could admit to design flaw, lots of excuses about radio, radar, microwave etc interference causing the problem. So the fix, well a trigger that kills power to the stabilator trim system. No fix because they never really knew why it happened. Airbus installed a real system reset, did not fix their problem either. The more complicated, they more sub-system controllers, they more loaded digital controlled systems they more they miss and they more problems show up totally unexpected when the un-tested scenarios finally show up and scare the total shit out of the operator or kill him. The fix, well as history shows it will be a KILL switch or a RESET button.

Author:	Hillberg [ Fri Nov 22, 2024 4:32 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Chinook gyro
skyguynca wrote: I think way too many people are getting too comfortable with the idea that a bunch of electric motors are completely safe for air travel. That the in lab and test phase failure rate is so low that no need to worry...... I was in hueys (Don should remember this) when the Blackhawks were accepted and they told all us huey guys we had to transition (I was smart and when to Chinooks). Well wasn't a few months in service when we started seeing the yard darts diving in.......yep small electrical problem with the stabilator going full down on it own un-commanded. Couldn't stop it either. Well no one could admit to design flaw, lots of excuses about radio, radar, microwave etc interference causing the problem. So the fix, well a trigger that kills power to the stabilator trim system. No fix because they never really knew why it happened. Airbus installed a real system reset, did not fix their problem either. The more complicated, they more sub-system controllers, they more loaded digital controlled systems they more they miss and they more problems show up totally unexpected when the un-tested scenarios finally show up and scare the total shit out of the operator or kill him. The fix, well as history shows it will be a KILL switch or a RESET button. "Splathawk" I got out when the 1st one came to my unit... Now 30 years later I got retired from the Sheriff air unit they get 3 for the fire fighting roll .... They follow me like a bad smell.

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