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Author:  Gabor [ Mon Sep 08, 2014 8:23 am ]
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"Baby bird" 2-place helicopter.

Author:  elwood [ Mon Sep 08, 2014 8:27 am ]
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That is cool, but can it autorotate?

Author:  Gabor [ Mon Sep 08, 2014 10:32 am ]
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Of course!

Author:  elwood [ Mon Sep 08, 2014 10:39 am ]
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Is that a Cicare design? Don't hold out on us big fella.

Author:  MadMuz [ Mon Sep 08, 2014 10:53 am ]
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Looks great, I would want to see it autorotate before I bought one tho.... a long way down in a short time if you looking at your rotors not turning :realcrazy


I have never seen a coaxial helicopter more than skid landing height off the ground.... remember the Nolan with two 582 engines?.... I never saw it more than 5' off the ground on the demonstration tape.... if you haven't heard of it, google 'Nolan helicopter' :yoda2

Author:  GyroGeorgia [ Mon Sep 08, 2014 10:58 am ]
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My memory might be missing some details... however I think Gabor posted a video of a Russian (?) coaxial that ran on two radials... and yes it could auto-rotate. Part of a discussion a while back with that same question... 'can a coaxial auto?'. Somewhat different looking bird... however one has to respect any chopper that flies and will auto down if it has an engine issue.

Author:  Gabor [ Mon Sep 08, 2014 11:24 am ]
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Yes it is a Russian design and it uses a Rotax 912. Autorotates beautifully. It has 20' diameter discs that are counter rotating. The machine uses a lot of the Kamov design elements adding the 21st century technology. :) sweet flying machine

Author:  MadMuz [ Mon Sep 08, 2014 11:34 am ]
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Did you see the Nolan? Had 2 582's driving one drum, so if one stopped, it could continue (but not climb) on the engine that was running. :bigballs
Too bad if you run out of gas..... I think it is on youtube too... I have the VHS cassette :yoda2 This is the highest flying picture I have ever seen of it, always 5' or less. Looks like fun tho :dance

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0QHfBucsL0Q

Author:  autorotmachine [ Mon Sep 08, 2014 12:31 pm ]
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crank up the sound guy and wait for the music to start at 20sec https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJlPT133Uq0

Author:  Gabor [ Mon Sep 08, 2014 12:36 pm ]
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I could almost hear him say a few nice Hungarian cuss words LOL. That was a Hungarian sprayer guy....

Author:  autorotmachine [ Mon Sep 08, 2014 12:39 pm ]
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yes good work horse i think kamov ka26 and your little pic is rotorfly https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUefKj--X90

Author:  Gabor [ Mon Sep 08, 2014 1:17 pm ]
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Yes they called it Vertolet when in 1984 they started out but after breaking away from Kamov they renamed it and did a little modifications on the base unit. They are now I think called Ural something.....

Author:  Animal [ Mon Sep 08, 2014 8:08 pm ]
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MadMuz wrote:
Did you see the Nolan? Had 2 582's driving one drum, so if one stopped, it could continue (but not climb) on the engine that was running. :bigballs
Too bad if you run out of gas..... I think it is on youtube too... I have the VHS cassette :yoda2 This is the highest flying picture I have ever seen of it, always 5' or less. Looks like fun tho :dance

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0QHfBucsL0Q
hey Madmuz not only have I seen it,I have sat in it and worked on the Engines. Anthony Croenlein of Phoenix Rotorcraft- 919-340-0038

bought out the design rights and the Proto type from Eagle perch. Anthony's shop was about 60 miles from where I use to live.

here are some pics of the machine. I never saw it fly.

and I heard he just bought a second one from the PRA chapter that Tom Milton is in.

Author:  MadMuz [ Mon Sep 08, 2014 10:57 pm ]
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That's awesome animal, thanks for that :bigballs


Hey Gab, have you flown the baby bird or will you be going to? :yoda2

Author:  Gabor [ Tue Sep 09, 2014 6:13 am ]
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No I haven't. I just knew about it. Friend of mine was working with one of the engineers.

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