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Author:  elwood [ Fri Mar 06, 2015 1:11 pm ]
Post subject:  chinese carburators
I have a Honda powered 9 hp 5k generator, it has always started but you always had to have the choke on about a 3rd of the way it would not run with the choke off, I have cleaned it etc, always the same, So i decided to oreder a replacement carb, I found one on Amazon for $15.00 with free shipping, I got the carb and it says "Huayi standard of Japn" on the side of the carb. ? Anyhow I bolted it on and it fired up and runs great!!

Hopefully I can trade it to my son, he picked up a Honda 12k diesel generator, it needs a fuel tank and filter, but I think it will be a good trade.
just surprised the Chinese carb woks so well.
Author:  Gabor [ Fri Mar 06, 2015 1:20 pm ]
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Some areas are coming up to standards and some are already beating them in the Chinese manufacturing,
Author:  Henry Bowman [ Fri Mar 06, 2015 1:27 pm ]
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They must have copied a good one!
Author:  elwood [ Fri Mar 06, 2015 1:31 pm ]
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The original one was a Kehin, Honda has used them for years, never had a problem with one.....
Author:  JonCarleton [ Fri Mar 06, 2015 5:45 pm ]
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China is good at casting. They have outstripped the rest of the world in gravity casting, spin casting and pressure casting of low-density metals, such as lead, tin, aluminum and others. Much of this is due to polution standards in most of the rest of the civilized world that prevent such production without cost-prohibitive anti-polution methods. Such restrictions do not exist in China.

The result of this is that most of the casting and casting equipment has been moved or is now operating in China. It isn't a surprise that the quality is good, in that the same methods (and even some of the exact equipment and machines) that were developed in Germany, Japan and the US have been relocated to China.

There is, for example, only 1 US aluminum casting company left for non-standard parts (those not mass-produced by Alcoa and a few other giants). The US castings are all low-quality gravity casts, as anti-polution equipment needed for pressure or spin casting is cost-prohibitive under EPA regulations. Everything else has "MADE IN CHINA" stamped all over it.
Author:  RayNAiken [ Fri Mar 06, 2015 6:19 pm ]
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I'm wondering if we could fight another world war two with as much of the tooling gone in the USA.
Author:  GyroGeorgia [ Fri Mar 06, 2015 9:24 pm ]
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RayNAiken wrote:
I'm wondering if we could fight another world war two with as much of the tooling gone in the USA.


Ya know... that is an interesting observation.

I suspect America 'could' roll up their sleeves and ramp up... if the majority of the population was motivated.
Now that would be the key IMO... whether the masses became motivated.

What would, IMO, be amusing... would be to watch the Weenie, looser, tree-hugger, wimpy, etc... crowd argue it would be better to be RED than to take a chance in a war. IMO they would loose out... however to me it would be amusing to see them whine their weenie heads off... and loose.

Just my :twopennies
Author:  JonCarleton [ Fri Mar 06, 2015 11:01 pm ]
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The US could ramp up quickly with the repeal or relaxation of Environmental regulations on land use and industrial emissions. That, along with low wages, is China's only advantage.

My sister is living in China. She tells of rivers through industrial areas where nothing grows within miles of the water and strip mining that leaves deserts where there were once forests. I am not a tree-hugger, but recognize that there must be a balance between progress and profit. Politics, I think, is a more convoluting agent than either progress or profit. War, of course, can trump any of that.

That does, of course, mean war of the "traditional" type. I'm not sure that another global war would look anything like anything we have seen to date. Wealth assets are more data than material these days and the concept of human troops, that has not changed much since WWII, is all but obsolete. All it will take is for someone to throw out the rule book and it could get very ugly.
Author:  GyroGeorgia [ Sat Mar 07, 2015 12:06 am ]
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I have been kinda a history buff most of my life... not avid, just enjoy it.

It seems to me (strictly opinion), wars are won not so much by the side with the most troops or expensive toys (those are important)... rather the side with the best 'guerrilla' or 'insurgent' or 'underground' or what you want to call it: that is, the ability to inflict lots of little yet painful hits, continuously.
The French underground suffered HUGE losses... yet inflicted tremendous damage to the Third Reich...
The 'guerrilla' warfare we saw in VietNam... was more than a semi-committed America could win against (note the 'semi-committed').
The 'insurgents' have kept the US military in a pickle in one after another brush war in the middle east and Afghanistan.
And if we go back in history... the USA won their independence from Britain... with farmers taking potshots at redcoats.

I think things have not really changed much... the side that can persistently and painfully inflict the most damage by consistently taking pot-shots at the other... probably will win.

IMO the USA has more than enough guys who would LOVE to be special forces... we (the USA) have the training and special toys... If we ever needed to ramp up that part of the military... I would truly feel sorry for the other side.

The things we did the first year after 911... were truly destructive to the other side... and it was all covert.

Now that is not the only thing... the troops and bombers and strike fighters and drones and intelligence are all important. However those small teams that go deep behind lines... are IMO the ones that win (or loose) the war.

Again, just my :twopennies
Author:  MadMuz [ Sat Mar 07, 2015 1:24 pm ]
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As soon as there is a decent war, all the winners have to do is drop a guided missile or 10 in each power plant and that country returns immediately to the dark ages.... you cant protect power stations from guided munitions..... kaos would follow :badluck
Author:  RayNAiken [ Sat Mar 07, 2015 2:48 pm ]
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elwood wrote:
I have a Honda powered 9 hp 5k generator, it has always started but you always had to have the choke on about a 3rd of the way it would not run with the choke off, I have cleaned it etc, always the same, So i decided to oreder a replacement carb, I found one on Amazon for $15.00 with free shipping, I got the carb and it says "Huayi standard of Japn" on the side of the carb. ? Anyhow I bolted it on and it fired up and runs great!!

Hopefully I can trade it to my son, he picked up a Honda 12k diesel generator, it needs a fuel tank and filter, but I think it will be a good trade.
just surprised the Chinese carb woks so well.


My father in law has a Coleman 5500 that has carb trouble. Tecumseh. I hate a Tecumseh. Their carbs hate me. I will never buy anything again with a tecumseh engine.
Anyway my F-I-L left bad gas in it and it screwed up the original carb. He took it to a shop and they put a new one on it but they couldn't find the direct replacement. Probably because they are so shitty.
I mean how simple is a crab that they can't get it right?????

It won't run a steady 3600 rpm. The governor hunts until it shuts off. Lights dim-bright-dim-bright-dim-bright.
Governor spring too light? Too heavy?
Make an intake manifold and put a briggs carb on it?
Suggestions?
Author:  MadMuz [ Sat Mar 07, 2015 2:54 pm ]
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I got 2 ching chong water pumps on the property.... look like Honda 5.5.... when I haven't started them for a while, I have to drop the bowl off the carb and poke a wire up the jet hole, then fresh gas and off they go :like

One of them hunts the entire time, but it is only pumping water, not annoying like a generator would be :killme :laughing :laughing
Author:  RayNAiken [ Sat Mar 07, 2015 2:58 pm ]
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MadMuz wrote:
I got 2 ching chong water pumps on the property.... look like Honda 5.5.... when I haven't started them for a while, I have to drop the bowl off the carb and poke a wire up the jet hole, then fresh gas and off they go :like

One of them hunts the entire time, but it is only pumping water, not annoying like a generator would be :killme :laughing :laughing


That's all well and good and we used to be able to do that.
The EPA over here has forced the manufacturers to put press in brass plugs to keep us from doing that.
You have to have a machine shop to drill them out and make a plug to cap the orifices and passageways again.
Author:  MadMuz [ Sat Mar 07, 2015 3:05 pm ]
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Wow, good old EPA... oh well, if anyone need bits to get around that, let me know and I will see what I can find :noidea :like :laughing :laughing

I don't know if I can find ching chong spares (if they break you throw them away) but hondas and other manufacturers sell spares
Author:  GyroGeorgia [ Sat Mar 07, 2015 9:17 pm ]
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JonCarleton wrote:
The US could ramp up quickly with the repeal or relaxation of Environmental regulations on land use and industrial emissions. That, along with low wages, is China's only advantage.

My sister is living in China. She tells of rivers through industrial areas where nothing grows within miles of the water and strip mining that leaves deserts where there were once forests. I am not a tree-hugger, but recognize that there must be a balance between progress and profit. Politics, I think, is a more convoluting agent than either progress or profit. War, of course, can trump any of that.

That does, of course, mean war of the "traditional" type. I'm not sure that another global war would look anything like anything we have seen to date. Wealth assets are more data than material these days and the concept of human troops, that has not changed much since WWII, is all but obsolete. All it will take is for someone to throw out the rule book and it could get very ugly.


Ya know... the USA almost got to that point back when... so even though we do not like the EPA... it has done some good.
Author:  GyroGeorgia [ Sat Mar 07, 2015 9:22 pm ]
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RayNAiken wrote:
elwood wrote:
I have a Honda powered 9 hp 5k generator, it has always started but you always had to have the choke on about a 3rd of the way it would not run with the choke off, I have cleaned it etc, always the same, So i decided to oreder a replacement carb, I found one on Amazon for $15.00 with free shipping, I got the carb and it says "Huayi standard of Japn" on the side of the carb. ? Anyhow I bolted it on and it fired up and runs great!!

Hopefully I can trade it to my son, he picked up a Honda 12k diesel generator, it needs a fuel tank and filter, but I think it will be a good trade.
just surprised the Chinese carb woks so well.


My father in law has a Coleman 5500 that has carb trouble. Tecumseh. I hate a Tecumseh. Their carbs hate me. I will never buy anything again with a tecumseh engine.
Anyway my F-I-L left bad gas in it and it screwed up the original carb. He took it to a shop and they put a new one on it but they couldn't find the direct replacement. Probably because they are so shitty.
I mean how simple is a crab that they can't get it right?????

It won't run a steady 3600 rpm. The governor hunts until it shuts off. Lights dim-bright-dim-bright-dim-bright.
Governor spring too light? Too heavy?
Make an intake manifold and put a briggs carb on it?
Suggestions?


I have had fair luck finding carbs for engines online... I do have to hunt some.
Might try to hunt down the 'correct' carb for the engine.

Just my thing: I always put 'Sta-Bil' in the gas that runs in all my 'small' engines. Keeps them from clogging. I have a backpack blower (Echo) that is 12 years old... only thing done to it is a 'tune up kit' (fuel filter, air filter, spark plug). It has not seen a drop of gas that did not have Sta-Bil in it.
Author:  RayNAiken [ Sat Mar 07, 2015 9:36 pm ]
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GyroGeorgia wrote:

Just my thing: I always put 'Sta-Bil' in the gas that runs in all my 'small' engines. Keeps them from clogging. I have a backpack blower (Echo) that is 12 years old... only thing done to it is a 'tune up kit' (fuel filter, air filter, spark plug). It has not seen a drop of gas that did not have Sta-Bil in it.


There was stabil in this one...but evidently not enough or something. I simply hate a Tecumseh.
Author:  GyroGeorgia [ Sat Mar 07, 2015 10:17 pm ]
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RayNAiken wrote:
GyroGeorgia wrote:

Just my thing: I always put 'Sta-Bil' in the gas that runs in all my 'small' engines. Keeps them from clogging. I have a backpack blower (Echo) that is 12 years old... only thing done to it is a 'tune up kit' (fuel filter, air filter, spark plug). It has not seen a drop of gas that did not have Sta-Bil in it.


There was stabil in this one...but evidently not enough or something. I simply hate a Tecumseh.


Did not know...

I think Sta-bil is good for about a year, give or take. I realize this is kinda OCD... however I try to run those small engines every month... which in reality turns out to be about a month and a half. They always start though... well almost always.

The most expensive and potentially most important one... I let it sit for waaaaay too long... had to fiddle with it a bit to get it started. Then put some STP gas treatment in the tank and let it run for an hour or so... seemed to clean it out.
Note to self: Do not forget to run that engine... even though it is a lot of fuss to drag it out and get it started.
Author:  JonCarleton [ Sun Mar 08, 2015 12:19 pm ]
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Tecumseh..PTOOIE!

I have also hated those nasty engines forever. Give me a good ole' Briggs any day. If it won't start, just get a bigger hammer. It will run with no rings. I once had a B&S that I cut lawns with for a week that would only run full out. I found out later it was because the throttle valve was gone. It had probably been sucked into the cylinder and blown back out the exhaust...but still running.
Author:  MadMuz [ Sun Mar 08, 2015 12:34 pm ]
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Yes, sitting is what kills them. I have a couple of :Cheapass 4 stroke ching chong generators (1.8KW) coz I am on a farm and if the power goes off, like it is booked to be off on the 30th between 830am and 5pm, I can still flush the bog (tank water/electric pump) and keep the fridge and the tv going..... but I too start it every time I think of it (every few weeks). The last time I forgot for about 6 months.... I couldn't pull the starter, it was solid :eek :killme :badluck but I took off the pull starter and turned it with a wheel lug wrench (X type) and freed it, put the pull starter back on and it started first pull :koolaid :wol2

One thing I have found that works for me, is to never switch it off, I always turn off the gas and it runs until the bowl is empty.... I thnk it is bad for them to leave gas in the bowl, which evaporates and turns to jet blocking shit :realcrazy :badluck

Things like my ching chong mower (4 stroke Honda ripoff) the pull starter broke in the first year (as warranty/guarantee ran out) :badluck so most stuff like that gets started with a (ching chong) :Cheapass cordless drill :rofl :rofl :rofl :yoda2 :Wolvie
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