In a move clearly intended by the Obama Administration to suppress the acquisition, ownership and use of AR-15s and other .223 caliber general purpose rifles, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives unexpectedly announced today that it intends to ban commonplace M855 ball ammunition as “armor piercing ammunition.” The decision continues Obama’s use of his executive authority to impose gun control restrictions and bypass Congress.
It isn’t even the third week of February, and the BATFE has already taken three major executive actions on gun control. First, it was a major change to what activities constitute regulated “manufacturing” of firearms. Next, BATFE reversed a less than year old position on firing a shouldered “pistol.” Now, BATFE has released a “Framework for Determining Whether Certain Projectiles are ‘Primarily Intended for Sporting Purposes’ Within the Meaning of 18 U.S.C. 921(a)(17)(c)”, which would eliminate M855’s exemption to the armor piercing ammunition prohibition and make future exemptions nearly impossible.
By way of background, federal law imposed in 1986 prohibits the manufacture, importation, and sale by licensed manufacturers or importers, but not possession, of “a projectile or projectile core which may be used in a handgun and which is constructed entirely . . . from one or a combination of tungsten alloys, steel, iron, brass, bronze, beryllium copper, or depleted uranium.” Because there are handguns capable of firing M855, it “may be used in a handgun.” It does not, however, have a core made of the metals listed in the law; rather, it has a traditional lead core with a steel tip, and therefore should never have been considered “armor piercing.” Nonetheless, BATFE previously declared M855 to be “armor piercing ammunition,” but granted it an exemption as a projectile “primarily intended to be used for sporting purposes.”
Now, however, BATFE says that it will henceforth grant the “sporting purposes” exception to only two categories of projectiles:
Category I: .22 Caliber Projectiles
A .22 caliber projectile that otherwise would be classified as armor piercing ammunition under 18 U.S.C. 921(a)(17)(B) will be considered to be “primarily intended to be used for sporting purposes” under section 921(a)(17)(C) if the projectile weighs 40 grains or less AND is loaded into a rimfire cartridge.
Category II: All Other Caliber Projectiles
Except as provided in Category I (.22 caliber rimfire), projectiles that otherwise would be classified as armor piercing ammunition will be presumed to be “primarily intended to be used for sporting purposes” under section 921(a)(17)(C) if the projectile is loaded into a cartridge for which the only handgun that is readily available in the ordinary channels of commercial trade is a single shot handgun. ATF nevertheless retains the discretion to deny any application for a “sporting purposes” exemption if substantial evidence exists that the ammunition is not primarily intended for such purposes.
BATFE is accepting comments until March 16, 2015 on this indefensible attempt to disrupt ammunition for the most popular rifle in America. Check back early next week for a more in-depth analysis of this “framework” and details on how you can submit comments.
How to comment – from the BATFE
ATF will carefully consider all comments, as appropriate, received on or before March 16, 2015, and will give comments received after that date the same consideration if it is practical to do so, but assurance of consideration cannot be given except as to comments received on or before March 16, 2015. ATF will not acknowledge receipt of comments. Submit comments in any of three ways (but do not submit the same comments multiple times or by more than one method):
Mail: Denise Brown, Mailstop 6N-602, Office of Regulatory Affairs, Enforcement Programs and Services, Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives, 99 New York Avenue, NE, Washington, DC 20226: ATTN: AP Ammo Comments.
FOR FURTHER INFORMATION CONTACT: Denise Brown, Enforcement Programs and Services, Office of Regulatory Affairs, Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives, U.S. Department of Justice, 99 New York Avenue, NE, Washington, DC 20226; telephone: (202) 648-7070.
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Ya know... he seems to be trying as hard as he can... to piss off everyone... Someone said he was drunk on power, that fits.
Thankfully there are well funded (we all should be giving them $$$) that will take this through the courts and kill it.
What this action does, IMO, is to bring the last folks sitting on the fence... to the realization the feds are out/control... and need to be reigned in.
Will be an interesting year in politics.
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WINTER SOLDIER ! KEEP YOUR WEAPONS CLEAN AND YOUR POWDER DRY GENTLEMEN ! THE END IS ANEAREN ! ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ MOTHER F@&$%#'s "Veritas , Aequitas" "non sequiter" !!!!! FORNICATEUM !!!!!
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somebody got a S&W AR 223 and 500 rounds for valetine's !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Only 500 rounds?? Whose the tight arse??
Kidding, that's awesome, fick you
Did you get my pm about the titanium in (G-911)
Muz -
I had to go thru this with Gabs awhile back. (kinda)
When it comes to the elasticity of either my or my LOVED ONES's 1st hole below the back of our necks, we should NO, DANG IT, I,M NOT GOING THERE !!!!!!!!!!!!
Hope to reply to yer PM a little later, Dude, TAKE CARE !!
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The tighter the better.....needs more lube though...... Fick you FJ
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Here in a few years back (2008-2010) when the ammo glut was on in the US, we couldn't get lots of ammo sizes because you guys were snuffling it as fast as they could make it Then it got so bad we had to put our name down and preorder primers and powder
The firearms mob in decided that in Canberra (Australian Capitol Territory) the gun shops could not sell powder.... at all!! Brass, yes, primers yes, projectiles yes, powder.... NO! evidently to bring powder from Sydney to ACT took 5 permits for the shop to apply for... each delivery the tree huggers reckoned that it was too dangerous to transport propellant in trucks thru the streets So, I used to drive 10 mile to Queenbeyan (over the border) and bring back 20KG of various powders in my car It was illegal without permits for a truck to carry 20# of powder.... yet I could have bought back 100# if I wanted to.... and drive thru Maccas and get som McShit on the way home.... that was ok? Work that out?
A stupid thing they also tried to stop also, was Teflon coated projectiles For CAS, I used to use gold colored projectiles in 44-40 and green projectiles in 44 mag..... but because on TV movies, Teflon coated boolits are 'kop kil lers' then obviously any person who needs Teflon boolits, must be going to k ill kops I just like them because I don't want to be handling lead all the time... anyway, that went away....
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Muz... You need to apply for citizenship in the USA... you would fit right in, in the 'South'...
Just imagine the freedoms you used to have... that you would have here...
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Hey yeah then I could marry my cousin and live happily ever after
Man, I would love it over there, that's for sure.... trouble is, you guys all talk funny? I don't want to have to learn to talk funny too.... do I Gabs?
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Everybody talks funny here... they just talk they way they want to. We are a melting pot of culture... which IMO is an understatement.
Now understanding what they say... well that is a talent you may have to learn...
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